|“||So it's all my fuckin' fault then? You fucking -- You're gonna throw me to the fuckin' wolf too? You know I didn't have a goddamn choice! What the fuck? Argh! Oh, I DID WHAT I HAD TO! You can't fuckin' blame me for that. Sometimes you just have to do what you're told. Then it comes back to bite you in the ass because some good-for-nothin' Crooked bastard decides you're not worth shit anymore.||”|
– Georgie to Bigby and Vivian. (Determinant)
Georgie Porgie is the tertiary antagonist in The Wolf Among Us. He is a pimp and the owner of the Pudding 'n' Pie strip club, employing Vivian as his business partner, Hans as security, and employs many girls (such as Faith, Lily, Nerissa and Gwen) as strippers/prostitutes. It is revealed that he was the murderer of Faith and Lily, but was acting under the Crooked Man's orders.
- 1 Synopsis
- 2 Killed Victims
- 3 Death
- 4 Powers & Abilities
- 5 Personality
- 6 Book of Fables Entry
- 7 Appearances
- 8 Trivia
- 9 See also
Georgie does not appear in this episode but mentioned several times. If the player chooses to go to Lawrence's apartments first, there will be a conversation with him in which he comments "Fucking Georgie..." after Lawrence hears of Faith's death (or disappearance if Bigby lies).
When the episode shows the decisions made, and the compilation of all photos of the people Bigby can name as a suspect are shown, a photo of Georgie is shown and if he was chosen it will cite Georgie as "Faith's pimp". Georgie is also alluded to when Faith comments "these lips are sealed" when Bigby asks who she works for.
|“||Aw no fuck! You! Take your sad fucking face where I can't see it! Bloody bastard fucking shit! You proud of yourself, mate? Proud of your little mess? Fuck's sake. Fuck off Hans.||”|
– Georgie insults Bigby, Nerissa, and Hans.
When Bigby arrives at the Pudding 'n' Pie, Vivian will take him to Georgie. She warns that he is in a bad mood and doesn't like to be disturbed when working. When they enter, he can be seen berating Nerissa as he tries to coach her on her lackluster pole dancing. He resists Bigby's interrogation about Lily's last client and possible killer, and eventually the conversation ends with his boombox being knocked over and broken. After telling his handyman Hans to fix it, Hans unknowingly reveals a client book Georgie keeps of all his girls' appointments. Georgie denies that it exists and threatens Hans with a wooden paddle for his slip up. Bigby then snatches from him and threatens to break Georgie's property to get information out of him. Whether Bigby destroys Georgie's stuff or not, he eventually discovers a floor safe which Georgie claims he has no key for. After threatening to destroy his property again, Georgie opens the safe revealing the client book, and Bigby learns that Lily's last meeting was with a "Mr. Smith." Georgie states the name is probably fake and he can't offer anymore help. He then leaves Bigby to angrily make a phone call about how he has been treated. He is last seen giving Nerissa a key to Room 204 of the Open Arms Hotel after Bigby makes an appointment with her.
|“||Ah, did ya miss a spot? Mr. Clean come to smash up the rest of my place? Oh, I see. Come to audition your bitch?||”|
– Georgie to Bigby and Snow, if Bigby completely vandalized his place. (Determinant)
Georgie is at the Pudding 'n' Pie, on the phone with an unknown caller, when Bigby and Snow White arrive to find Crane. As they go into the back room to arrest Crane, Georgie tells the caller, "we have a problem."
|“||Am I some kind of fuckin' joke to you? What did I tell you? Stop laughing at me.||”|
– Georgie to Jersey (heard if Bigby eavesdrops on the Crooked Man's door)
Georgie and Vivian are both present in the Crooked Man's residence at the end of the episode. Before Bigby enters the room, he is heard arguing with Jersey to stop laughing at him. This, paired with TJ's testimony from earlier, seems to indicate that Georgie was the one who dumped Lily's body in the East River. Georgie jumps up fearfully when Bigby enters, but remains silent for the duration of the confrontation.
|“||You can go join the bottom of the lake with that whore, for all I give a shit! But he's not taking me anywhere! I'll roll over on the lot of you before I let that shit happen!||”|
– Georgie refusing to go along with Bigby after he was betrayed by the Crooked Man.
Georgie appears in this episode in the Crooked Man's meeting with Bigby in his lair. After a while, he gladly admits that he killed Faith and Lily and that he was ordered to do so by the Crooked Man; however, he becomes angry when the Crooked Man makes him take the fall for the murders. When Bigby demands the Crooked Man to come as well, things escalates into violence when Georgie, Dee, Dum (Determinant), and Jersey get into a fight. He tries to stab Bigby, but ends up injuring Dee and then he goes after Bigby again only to be overpowered and stabbed with his own weapon. Heavily wounded, Georgie and Vivian flee as Bigby chases them in their car.
|“||FUCK you! P-piece of shit....||”|
– Georgie's last words as he angrily curses if he is left to bleed out by Bigby. (Determinant)
If Bigby chases them down, he ends up at the Pudding 'n' Pie where Georgie can be seen extremely injured almost to the point of death. Bigby asks why he killed his two girls, to which he will say that they tried to "pull a runner on us", and that the Crooked Man didn't want to get his "fucking hands dirty". Then he tries to force the sheriff to remove Vivian's ribbon and kill her. Regardless of what Bigby does, Vivian will back away and pull her ribbon off after expressing her remorse for ruining the girls' lives, committing suicide. This horrifies and shocks Bigby and Georgie greatly and Bigby says that the pimp needed to go with him. Georgie, who is at this point unable to move due to his mortal injury must be dealt with immediately instead. He divulges the location of the Crooked Man's whereabouts. Finally Bigby is given a choice to make whether to mercy-kill Georgie or leave him to bleed out for a bit of vengeance for Faith and Lily. He dies a killer regardless of options chosen.
If the player chooses to go after the Crooked Man's car (in which case you will still end up at Georgie's club), Vivian's head is already headless but Georgie is still barely alive. Infuriated, Bigby asks what happened, suggest that he killed her, or either hit him, Georgie tells him that Vivian killed herself and explains the same reason for killing Faith and Lily, and that Vivian was the reason for the ribbons. Bigby tells him to get up that the pimp needs to go with him. Georgie, who is at this point unable to move due to his mortal injury must be dealt with immediately instead. He divulges the location of the Crooked Man's whereabouts. Bigby will still give a choice to mercy-kill Georgie or leave him to bleed out for a bit of vengeance for Faith and Lily. He dies a killer regardless of options chosen.
This list shows the victims Georgie has killed:
- Bigby Wolf (Out of mercy; Determinant)
During Bigby's fight with the Crooked Man's cronies, Georgie attempts to stab him with a knife. After accidentally injuring Dee, he and Bigby engage in a brief standoff, during which Bigby disarms him and stabs him in the stomach, almost cutting him open, mortally injuring him as a result. Vivian brings him back to the the Pudding and Pie as he is bleeding out. After she commits suicide, Georgie reveals the severity of his wound to Bigby and asks him to mercy kill him. Bigby can do so by disemboweling him which causes him to scream gruesomely before he dies or leave him to bleed out. If left to bleed out, he will show disappointment and ask if he's just going to leave him like this, before Bigby can give him a response on whether he deserves it or not, to which Georgie swears at Bigby again, cursing him and will be left to suffer. His coughing can be heard when Bigby leaves the Pudding and Pie and shuts off the lights.
Powers & Abilities
Compared to the other agents of the Crooked Man, Georgie isn't shown much in combat, only fighting at the start of Cry Wolf when he tries to use a silver knife to kill Bigby. Also, as seen by how a stab to the stomach killed him (compared to Lawrence, the Woodsman and Bigby's injuries throughout the game) he is apparently not very well-known amongst the mundies to have a high level of immunity. However, the stab to the stomach could be interpreted as being able to disable or render unconscious a mundy much quicker than it killed Georgie, showing that he has at least some resistance.
|“||Yeah, I killed them. So what? You should've just kept your nose where it fucking belonged.||”|
– Georgie sadistically mocking Bigby after revealing that he murdered Faith and Lily.
Georgie is shown to be very egotistical, misogynistic, quite immature, gleefully provocative, and above all, a control freak; he, as his Book of Fables entry (and his scene with Bigby in Episode 2) express also enjoys to insult and provoke people. Whenever he does this to people like Bigby, he usually ends up getting hurt but it never discourages him, showing that he is also relentless. He is callous and abusive, and holds extremely low views of his dancers, referring to them as his "livelihood" in Episode 2, telling Nerissa off in that episode, and referring to Faith and Lily as "whores at the bottom of the lake" in Episode 5. Georgie was also absolutely cruel, sadistic, homicidal, merciless, gleeful, psychotic, remorseless, aggressive, wicked, and shameless, especially when it was revealed to Bigby that he killed Faith and Lily and didn't show regrets at the sight of Bigby angered at the revelation. Upon being betrayed and sold out by the Crooked Man, he instantly got hateful and treacherous, and viciously lashed out at his coworkers afterwards, showing that he is not willing to go down for any reason, not even for his boss.
|“||Look, I know you think it's my fault, that I killed them for some twisted pleasure of mine, but I did what I had to! You can't blame me for that. Sometimes you just have to do what you're told. Then it comes back to bite you in the ass because some good-for-nothin' Crooked bastard decides you're not worth shit anymore.||”|
– An alternate version of Georgie's ranting from above. (Determinant)
Georgie is shown to be somewhat cowardly, childish, obstreperous, obsessive, and manipulative, and as such, has a volatile and violent temper and rampant, excessive use of profanity in his dialogue, over the course of the game. Despite all this, he actually rarely defends himself when Bigby hits him, and is shown be very frightened, paranoid, and beyond angry when the Crooked Man offers him to Bigby in Episode 5. He also tends to have a comical side, especially whenever he gets hurt or from his crude humor and provocation.
However, Georgie does seem to be friendly with Vivian, expressing sadness and frustration at her death in Episode 5. He was also willing to give Bigby the location of the Crooked Man's area as he died, wanting someone to be able to give the Crooked Man comeuppance for his betrayal.
Book of Fables Entry
"Georgie runs the Pudding and Pie, a strip club that also caters to the unmentionable desires of Fabletown's citizens. He has tried just about everything there is to try in pursuit of worldly pleasures, but none of it satisfies him for long. He does seem to enjoy pushing people's buttons. He takes pride in his nightclub, and doesn't react well to anyone meddling in his affairs."
- By explaining The Crooked Man's betrayal and how he was told to kill Faith and Lily, Georgie indirectly caused his boss's downfall.
- In the Smoke & Mirrors teaser trailer at the end of Episode 1, Georgie's voice was different from his final voice. In the teaser his voice was deeper and contained an Italian-American accent. Also, his brief scene in the trailer depicts him along with Vivian & some of the other prostitutes speaking to Bigby in the alley behind the club, but that scene never happened. Additionally, Georgie's subtitles are red in the trailer, unlike in the real game.
- The name of Georgie's strip club, the Pudding & Pie, is derived from the lyrics of his self-titled nursery rhyme ("Georgie Porgie, Puddin' and Pie, Kissed the girls and made them cry...").
- Georgie is the first Fable that Bigby directly kills (unless Tweedledum is killed in A Crooked Mile).
- Georgie and Bigby are the only Fables that have killed other Fables in the game.
- Georgie is the only male character who dies in a game no matter what player did.
- If you investigate the Tweedles Office in A Crooked Mile, you will find that the Tweedles have a file on Beauty listing her payment history for her loans. The description states: "Georgie has an interest. Wait till CM gives go ahead. Put Squeeze." The nature of Georgie's interest is unknown, though considering his occupation, he likely had an interest into making her a prostitute.
- Seeing as to how the Woodsman survives an axe to his brain, the Jersey Devil survived both that and one of his antlers being torn off and him impaled with it, and Bigby surviving dozens of rounds blasted through him, Georgie is notably weaker than the other Fables in the game. However, since Georgie (unlike the latter two) was human before and after the trip to the mundane world, this could be explained by him only having his popularity amongst the mundies be his source of damage resistance (possibly Bigby and Jersey have inherent powers that also give them resilience).
- Judging from Georgie's accent, he appears to be from northern England. Specifically the north west.
- Georgie Porgie's design seems to reflect the Skinhead subculture that originated from the UK's working class social group who were composed of young English and Jamaican working-class communities in 1960s London and were identified by their shaved heads and heavy boots. Skinheads would wear colour-coded shoelaces to identify their characteristics (For example, yellow laces would indicate anti-racism or neutrality, while blue laces would indicate a hatred of cops or that you murdered a cop). For skinheads, red laces indicated that you had committed a violent act. In the game, Georgie is a violent individual who has cricket bat to deal with rowdy customers. It also foreshadows the fact that Georgie is Faith and Lilly's murderer.
- Strangely, during Georgie's death in the comic, his tattoos are no longer visible as he's cradling Vivian's corpse.
- As a deviation from the videogame, Georgie dies in a different way. In the game, he's either left to slowly bleed out from his wounds or disembowelled by Bigby. In the comic, Georgie is instead decapitated by Bigby like his victims.